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Stan's No Tubes in Dugast Rhino
Just bought some Rhino's and glued them on yesterday (bit of a dogs dinner with some glue on the sidewalls, but hey, first time and they aren't going to roll off) - thanks for all advice here on selecting and glueing them.
Question - would you advise that I put Stan's in them and if so does it in anyway compromise the innertube life? After wrestling them on I don't want to make it a regular occurance, but bloke in (admittedly not great bike shop) reckons that Stan's reduces life of standard inner tubes - just wanted to check with people who actually know what they are talking about.
all advice greatfully received.
Cheers
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Permalink Reply by Paul Sheers on -
Hi Stuart
I have a Rhinos too but waited until I had a puncture before putting any Stans in. That way it's not sitting in there for too long sloshing around not doing anything. I've not heard that it deteriates the inner tube either though, may need to look into that, but so far so good.
Paul
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Permalink Reply by Andy Waterman on -
There's been a lot about this on Velonews recently. Apparently Dugast only recommends Effetto Mariposa Caffelatex which is available through Upgrade UK.
http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/12/technical-faq/technical-faq-...
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Permalink Reply by Paul Sheers on
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hmmmm, maybe look out for an epic collapse and me looking sorry for myself during one race soon then Andy.
Andy Waterman said:There's been a lot about this on Velonews recently. Apparently Dugast only recommends Effetto Mariposa Caffelatex which is available through Upgrade UK.
http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/12/technical-faq/technical-faq-...
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Permalink Reply by Dave Haygarth on -
Interesting... I haven't heard the 'reducing the life' argument before but maybe it's true. Certainly haven't heard of anyone having that problem. The good news is that I've put Stans sealant into my Dugast Rhinos before and have never punctured. Two years so far on one pair. What this means is that (a) I might never have punctured anyway) (b) it might just work.
I like your logic though. Far rather a seal than a send-away-to-Peter-Burgin.
More significant debate though is whether a Latex sealant would have enough 'oomph' to seal at a tub running at c.25psi, which a Dugast cyclosross tyre will typically be racing at. The Jury's out.
I use sealant in the 3 peaks by the way... but that's at pressures of 55-65 psi. Massive difference in the off chance of it coming into play at those pressures (and those types of distance from 'the pits!)
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Permalink Reply by scot on -
I've used Stans on the MTB tubless wheels and after a few weeks it starts to separate - you end up with a ball of latex rolling around the tyre.... have started using the Bontrager Super Juice instead, it is non latex so lasts for ages!
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Permalink Reply by Greg Keller on
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The issue that's been stirred up with sealants pumped into tubulars relates to the ammonia many of the sealants contain and the potential that it could erode through the tub and then contaminate the base tape and thus the glue. Thinking about this, you can see that by the time your tube is fried from the ammonia, you're flat anyways...not rolling it off catastrophically. For what it's worth, I have rescued 3 Dugasts and (no embellishment) 5 Challenge Grifos and file treads with Stans and brought them all completely back to life...saving me from sending them to tire-alert.com. Caffelatex (while apparently "approved" by Dugast) has been met with nearly a 100% fail rating from my friends who've tried it here in Boulder...where fail = it didn't seal. I'll leave it up to any of you to do your own research and choose the best solution for you, but if you go Stans, and you do not drain it at the end of every season, my suggestion is to ensure your tubulars remain indoors and somewhat warm for the off season. Also, ensure the tubulars remain somewhat inflated and try to spin them weekly to ensure the Stans doesn't coagulate or bond the flattened innertube together. Then you're bumming!
Hope this helps.
Greg
mudandcowbells.com
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Permalink Reply by Alan Dorrington on -
Interesting about the ammonia issue, Greg. Hadnt thought of that....
I've used DT Swiss tubeless sealant effectively on 2 FMBs that punctured - easy to get in as it has a thin tube to dispense. just rotate the tub to spread it around, as usual.
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